Greetings HMs!

[HM Tomlinson]

I just wanted to pop in and give thanks to you all for all the insiteful posts. This site is great so far!

I just took my ASVAB on Tuesday and pulled in a 90 so I don't think I will have any issues getting my HM rating. Will I?

I have not gone through MEPS yet since I am at 24% body fat but it's coming off quick. ;) Any quick weight loss tips?



Hopeful

[Da-Chief]

Hopeful,

Here is a surefire way to lose weight..

Put one foot in front of the other.. Faster.. Faster.. FASTER!!!

Do this for 30 minutes each day ..

PUT DOWN THE CHEESEBURGER!!

;)



Sounds like your on your way!! Keep up the good work!
Da-Chief

[HM Tomlinson]

No more cheeseburgers. No more anything good. 16 pounds in less than 3 weeks. I am sure most of it is water but you have to start somewhere. 8401 here I come!

Hopeful

[HM Tomlinson]

I managed to loose 25 pounds in 23 days to hit my mark of 22% body fat at MEPS yesterday. Not bad for a fat a$$.

I got my HM rate, the ship date I wanted, and a little bonus money.

Maybe I can change my name from Doc Hopeful to Devil Doc Hopeful! HOOYAH!

[0311_DoC]

Doc Hopeful wrote: I managed to loose 25 pounds in 23 days to hit my mark of 22% body fat at MEPS yesterday. Not bad for a fat a$$.

I got my HM rate, the ship date I wanted, and a little bonus money.

Maybe I can change my name from Doc Hopeful to Devil Doc Hopeful! HOOYAH!


Well if your gonna be a Devil Doc gotta git the slang right :cool:OOORAHHH!!! Oh yea and dont forget ---- errrrrr ;)



Semper Fi Doc Hopeful, and good luck.....

[HMC-FMF-PJ]

Doc Hopeful wrote: I managed to loose 25 pounds in 23 days to hit my mark of 22% body fat at MEPS yesterday. Not bad for a fat a$$.

I got my HM rate, the ship date I wanted, and a little bonus money.

Maybe I can change my name from Doc Hopeful to Devil Doc Hopeful! HOOYAH!


Outstanding job on your weight loss!!

I hope you are making a lasting change in lifestyle and not just “on a diet” to loose weight. You need to maintain your healthy habits for life. (pun intended)

Furthermore, in my opinion, Corpsmen need to exceed the Marines' minimum standard if they want to serve the FMF. The maximum body fat standard for male Marines is 18%. The better you do at things like the Marine PFT, the sooner you will earn their respect. See MCO P6100.12 for complete details.

Congratulations on your progress! Keep upthe good work!!

[HM Tomlinson]

Aye, it is a life style change. I have made a comittment to the US Navy and to myself.

All that I did to loose all that weight was cut my calories down, break my meals into 6 smaller meals rather than 3 normal meals, cut out junk food and pop (even diet soda), increase my dairy intake, and excercise like a mad man.

Iam aquite a bit older than most recruits (29 atm and will be 30 when I hit boot) so I was happy to see the weigh come off as easily as it did. I have set a personal goal of 215 pounds. That is 18 pounds away and once I hit that I should be pretty lean and mean!

I will hit boot on 20070110 so I have 4 solid months to improve.

Earning the respect of theMarines is at the top of my listonce I get that far. If I am going to serve with them I want to be as much of a Marine as I can.

Thanks for the encouragement!

Hopeful

[PrairieSon]

Doc Hopeful wrote: I have made a comittment to the US Navy and to myself...

... I want to be as much of a Marine as I can.




Corpsman are Navy. Even when they go green. Be proud of yourself and your choices.

my $.02

OooRa

[Da-Chief]

True but Marines are Navy as well tell em to look at thier checks.

One thing that used to Bust my ass when I was with the Marines was when I had a whiney sniveling HM come up to me and say

CHIEF, The Navy only has to run 1.5 miles why do I have to do 3-5 with the Marines...

My response..

First get over the urge to yank off his $)(%*$()%*$() Head and )$(*%$)(*$ down his neck then I would look him in the eye and explain to the young lass(It was a guy by the way) becuase.. I don't want you to die in COMBAT YOU IDIOT!!! Do you think the Marines are going to be able to do their job if they have to worry about dragging your Lazy ass all over as well as their gear? WE as HM's have to be in better shape then our Marines to take care of them, when it is time to set the pack down during a breather on a hump, guess who gets buys? When a Marine get's shot guess who gets busy..

THE MOTHER $)(%*$()%*$() CORPSMAN!!!

Tired of the damn whining, do what the hell your told.

Chief out..

breath ... Breathh.. Breath...

ahem..

:shock:

[HM Tomlinson]

/sarcasm on

Corpsmen are Navy?

/sarcasm off

You missed my point completely, PS. :?



Thanks for driving my point home, Chief. :D

[PrairieSon]

What I heard was that you wanted to be as much of a Marine as possible. That sounds to me like you should join the Marines. I spenta fewyears with them and never once did I feel like I didn't belong. Never once did I feel like I wasn't as good as they were, worked as hard as they did, trained as hard as they did.

Mind if I ask what dress uniform you wear?

[0311_DoC]

Well I wear dress blues :) but I also wear the Service Alpha's...

[Da-Chief]

I wear the Navy dress uniform as it is the "ONLY" dress uniform perscribed by Naval regulations. I can wear the Class "C" Marine Corps outfit if I go Marine Corps Reg's which I chose not to by the way as I did and still do believe of my Navy Heritage and had a "GO NAVY" sticker on my door to my office while serving with 1/14.

I have to admit I am embarrassed by me bretheren (NAVY)though when I serve on the same compound as the Navy and Marine Coprps.. People call them uptight etc..

Nope they (MARINES) follow the rules that are written plain and simple, no one said they were rocket scientists ;-) , while the Navy tries to stretch, have a group hug, havea meetings, sing "KUM-BAY-YAH" discussing the rules that were written.

Case and point, Came to 1/14 was serving with the Marines, I had just reported from NTC Great Lakes, a Schools command.

I asked the CMC if I could correct his Sailors or come to him, He said go ahead they are the rules..

by 1000 I was called into his office as his CPO's and his Sailors were wondering who the uniformlawyer was..

I was just following the rules.

This does not happen with the Corps.. they police themselves.. We are huggers..

:X

Chief out..

[0311_DoC]

I am with the Chief on that one, A Marine will lock on another Marine who is not with the program. That is just the way they are, I got locked on once by my Marine CO, cuz i was weraing the the Alphas wrong, i didnt know it at the time. But one thing Marines are, is anal about theyre appearance.

[HM Tomlinson]

PrairieSon wrote: What I heard was that you wanted to be as much of a Marine as possible. That sounds to me like you should join the Marines. I spenta fewyears with them and never once did I feel like I didn't belong. Never once did I feel like I wasn't as good as they were, worked as hard as they did, trained as hard as they did.

Mind if I ask what dress uniform you wear?






ugh...

Did you read the wholetopic or just jump in?




Earning the respect of the Marinesis at the top of my listonce I get that far.
If I am going to serve with them I want to be as much of a Marine as I can.

[DISCLAIMER: This does not denote a desire to be a Marine. Thanks for clearly reading WAY too far into this message]

[PrairieSon]

Of course I read it. I guess I just pay very close attention to detail. Congrats on the weight loss and all, but when someone says "I want to be as much of a marine as possible" that's exactly how I take it, that they want to be a marine. Not like a marine, not better than a marine, but "A Marine". My apologies for taking it literally and again paying attention to detail.

I could have just said Sailor first, Corpsman second, Technician third.

Enjoy the forums...

[Da-Chief]

I was taught just that years ago..

Sailor, CORPSMAN, TECH..

Good way to think!!!!


Thanks Prairie..

Da-Chief.

[puckmedic]

Doc hopeful-

I'm closing in on ya too. I read that whole "want to be a Marine" deal as well. These guys are pointing out a very important difference, and emphasising attention to detail. Learn it or get slapped by the big green pickle. USMC will eat you alive if you ever call yourself a Marine.

We're just trying to steer you right. It's what we do. Now you did say you wanted to be a Marine in one sentence, it's right there. We're just making sure you understand that that is a bad thing.

What you want to be is the best dang coprsman that ever walked with any Marine.

[HM Tomlinson]

Bah...

This is a debate over semantics and inference at this point.

Lock on...I stand by what I said.

TO BE PERFEECTLY CLEAR: When I pass A school and move to FMSS I will train with the Marines. When they hump, I will hump. When they run, I will run. I will be training myself to meet or exceed Marine standards to be as much of a Marine as I can while serving along side of them as a Navy Corpsman.

If any of that implies to you that I desire to be a Marine...

Then I guess your just F*$%^&# dense.

And I never used the word 'possible'....nice attention to detail. :?

[crazycajun]

Doc Hopeful,

I've been with the Marine Corps for 9 consecutive years now. I've stayed in my Navy Uniform because I'm a Sailor First. Not to bust on people who've elected to go Marine Corps Regulations.

The Marines look at Corpsmen to be able to do what they do, plus do the job of a Corpsmen. It's a little insane at times, though can be rewarding at times and very disheartening at times (espically during combat operations!)

Semper Fi,

crazycajun

[puckmedic]

Easy "hopeful" some of these dense ones are staff and will still be staff at HM A school when you arrive. Time for you to make nice nice.

[HM Tomlinson]

I will make 'nice nice.' :D

I've made my points and I am sorry if I offended anyone.

The last thing I want is to have the heat on me before I even enter boot.

[HM_ChrisG]

Not to highjack this thread.. but Navy Corpsmen can wear Class "C" Uniforms? Wouldn't that be a bit odd and do you still wear your navy Rank/Rate patch?

[crazycajun]

ChrisG,

Yes, Corpsmen can choose to wear the Class C (Charlie's) and yes you still wear you Navy Rating Patch on the uniform. Some Marines like it when a Sailor wears their uniform and others can't stand it. Though it's still a choice you'll have to make once you are with the FMF. It's good to have the option, though once you leave the FMF you'll be back in the standard Navy Uniforms and no long authorized to wear the Class C uniform.

Hope this helps,

Semper Fi,

crazycajun

[PrairieSon]

Bah?

Here's an idea. Go do it, quit talking about it, then come back and set us straight.

[HMC-FMF-PJ]

HM_ChrisG wrote: Not to highjack this thread.. but Navy Corpsmen can wear Class "C" Uniforms? Wouldn't that be a bit odd and do you still wear your navy Rank/Rate patch?

Eligible Navy personnel (officer, HM, DT, RP) may elect to go "Marine Corps Reg's (http://www.marcorsyscom.usmc.mil/sites/mcub/PAGES/Uniform%20Regs%20Chapters/Chapter%208_files/Chapter%208.htm)" within 90 days of reporting and conform to USMC fitness and grooming standards. Instead of the Navy's "Service (http://buperscd.technology.navy.mil/bup_updt/508/unireg/chapter3/enlisted/em_UniformsService.htm)" uniform, these Sailors wear Marine Corps "Service (http://www.marcorsyscom.usmc.mil/sites/mcub/images/PlateII.jpg)" uniforms (Alpha, Bravo, Charlie) and their variants. Navy personnel may not wear the Marine's "Dress" uniform (Evening Dress (http://www.marcorsyscom.usmc.mil/sites/mcub/images/PlateV.jpg), Blue Dress (http://www.marcorsyscom.usmc.mil/sites/mcub/images/PlateIV.jpg), Blue-White Dress (http://www.marcorsyscom.usmc.mil/sites/mcub/images/PlateVIII.jpg), Dress White (http://www.marcorsyscom.usmc.mil/sites/mcub/images/PlateVI.jpg), Mess Dress (http://www.marcorsyscom.usmc.mil/sites/mcub/images/PlateVI.jpg)).

I think everyone remotely assigned to the Marines has to wear the Marine Corps Combat Utility Uniform (http://www.marcorsyscom.usmc.mil/sites/mcub/PAGES/wpeC.jpg)(MCCUU) with the digital MARPAT. I don't think I've seen anyone attached to the Marines wearing the old cammies or tri-color deserts since the new uniform became standard.

I thought it was funny how some people reacted when I worn Charlies as HM3 to HM1. Seeing a caduceus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Caduceus.jpg) on the sleeve of a Marine uniform really puzzled them. However, wearing Charlies as HMC really throws people for a loop.Many peoplebecome totally baffled when they can't figure it out. Of course all this is distracting enough that I have had to maintain two complete sets of uniforms (Navy & Marine) so I can wear the uniform most appropriate for the occasion.

[popsie]

Back in the day when noah was a boatswain mate. I served on the green side and loved it. I stayed with the navy version of fatigues. Back then we still could have beards. It was a little , but prized victory. At the time we grunt Doc's wanted our individualisms. We would try to excel , but usually kept up with the Marine. There was a old saying. I believe it's still holds true on the green side. " when in Rome, do as romans do. Learn ,adapt and then later conquer there ass." With that mentality you'll be respected as "DOC". There were a lot of Corpsman before us serving with the corps that set standards of expectation of the Navy Corpman. Some gave there all for us to try to walk in their foot steps. There was a bumper sticker that was being displayed on Pendleton . It was created quite a stir. It annoyed a few , but they were allowed to be displayed. It was deemed it showed pride. The marines love that stuff. The bumper sticker was. "The Marines already have their few good men. NAVY CORPSMAN. " Some corpsman were discouraged to diplay it by the MP's. However, some of us proudly and defiantly still displayed it. However, we did have to walk the walk. We Navy Corpsman are proud bunch. I believe the Navy Hospital Corps is the only Corps in the world that is made up entirely of enlisted personel. Chief, if I'm wrong please correct me. I served on both sides. The side that treated me best was the Green. Although The Marines were great to me. I was and still am a NAVY CORPSMAN who happened to be attached to the Marines.

[doc_rueda]

The whole time they asked my " Doc! why don't you go Marine regs?" I say to them all the time " If I wanted to wear your uniform then I would have join the marine corps." and then laugh.

nothinng against the corpsman who wear them. I just prefer to " STAY NAVY"

But I will say this, I think FNGs (F**%in New Guys) who put in for their Marine regs chit 1week from stepping on deck, are trying to suck ass. I believe you should first prove yourself and gain acceptance from your platoon/company, right? There are some that can't hack it with the green side. I will find it funny to go green right away and then 2 to 3wks later your getting called a dumbass doc (DAD) . lol . I hate to hear it from another Marine that his Doc is lost.





Rueda

[HMC-FMF-PJ]

doc_rueda wrote: I think FNGs (F**%in New Guys) who put in for their Marine regs chit 1week from stepping on deck, are trying to suck ass. I believe you should first prove yourself and gain acceptance from your platoon/company, right? There are some that can't hack it with the green side. I will find it funny to go green right away and then 2 to 3wks later your getting called a dumbass doc (DAD) . lol . I hate to hear it from another Marine that his Doc is lost.

Well then I believe you would be mistaken in most cases.

While I do not doubt that some individuals, regardless of the uniform they wear, do indeed try to get in good with either the people they work with or the people they work for, I do not think volunteering to run the Marine PFT and keep your hair shorter means that you are "trying to suck ass."

Furthermore, the request to go Marine reg's must be submitted within the first 90 days of reporting to the FMF. Most commands require the Doc to "prove himself" and gain their approval before they will authorize his request to go Marine reg. The LPO, especially a Marine reg LPO, should also play a roll in approving or disapproving the request.

You are correct there are some that “can't hack it with the green side", but in my 15 years with the FMF the vast majority of these individuals were all Navy reg. In my experience, if a Marine reg Doc goes down the drain it is usually due to burn out or some other problem in their personal or professional life - - not that they can’t hack it…

I am surprised that a Corpsman could report for duty, be approved for Marine reg, and getfitted & issuedMarine uniforms within a little more than a month (5 weeks). It typically takes longer to get through the process, however, if the Doc is that much of a screw up, why did the chain of command approve his request?

More important than which uniform the “dumbass doc” is wearing; what are his fellow Corpsman and LPO doing to fix the problem? I don't care what uniform the Corpsman is wearing, if he is a "dumbass doc" then he is a liability in combat, not to mention an embarrassment to the command and the caduceus. I see no humor in that. Part of every Petty Officer's job is to square that Doc away.

Besides, if you check the uniform regulations you will find that all Navy personnel assigned to Marine units (including you) must comply with Marine reg’s & standards of appearance while wearing the Marine Corps Combat Utility Uniform (MCCUU) – so aren’t all FMF Corpsmen “Marine reg”?

[doc hiles]

All I am sure of in my 4years with the marines (Parris Island, 1/6 2nd marine division)

is that no matter what uniform you wear when a marine gets shot their is no one he would rather have beside him other than Doc.

[doc_rueda]

i make sure my sailors are sqaured away and aware of their area. I just hate to hear it from a marine that one of my corpsman is jacked up. Was it my fault? I don't know but I'll be damn if have another marinetalk bad about mycorpsman.The one I'm thinking ofat this moment is doing better now.He was just too worried about fitting in thanDOING HIS JOB at the time when he first came in.

I should say don't get complacent. I don't like seeing my corpsman beinglocked onby a Lcpl.

[HMC-FMF-PJ]

Agreed. The superior is directly responsible for his subordinates and has a duty to address discrepancies. A problem you ignore is a problem you encourage.

The appearance and performance of others in our profession is a reflection on us. Even if I don't own them, they still reflect on me and can impact my job. Getting the divergent wanderer squared away tends to improve a lot of things and makes everyone’s job easier.

[HM Tomlinson]

Lost 40 pounds with just over a week to go before I ship! :shock:

Thanks for the insight and heated debate in this thread.

Chief, I'll see you in March. ;)

I am off to boot!