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HMC-FMF-PJ
08-25-2006, 18:43
Okay, I have a research project for whomever can assist.

A Battle Star is worn on the GWOTEM to denote the number of combat operations in which an individual has participated. It is intended for personnel who were engaged in actual combat against the enemy, yet even with all the WIA and KIA since 2001 - zero Battle Stars have been authorized. How are Battle Stars requested?

The Global War On Terrorism Expeditionary Medal (GWOTEM) is a campaign medal for OUTCONUS Ops in support of the "global war on terrorism." Sailors and Marines who earned a GWOTEM for OEF/OIF prior to 01 May 2005 shall remain qualified for the GWOTEM; however, since 30 April 2005 the ACM/ICMis the only campaign medal authorized for OEF/OIF respectively. Only one GWOTEM will be awarded to an individual, thus no service stars are authorized. However, per NAVADMIN 090/04 (para 6) and MARADMIN 129/04 (para 8), Battle Stars are the only prescribed device for the GWOTEM.

According to NDAWS, the Battle Star is a bronze, 3/16 inch, five-pointed star "worn on the GWOTEM to denote the number of combat operations in which an individual has participated. It is intended for personnel who were engaged in actual combat against the enemy and under circumstances involving grave danger of death or serious bodily injury from enemy action." (see REFERENCE section below).

A Battle Star differentiates the warriors who had bullets flying around them in a war zone (ie. Iraq, Afghanistan, Djibouti) from those who had a more peaceful tour or otherwise "deployed abroad in (direct or indirect) support of GWOT operations".

However, zero Battle Stars have been authorized by anyone, anywhere. With zero Battle Stars authorized, it appears that no units have ever submitted any requests to CENTCOM for approval. (Surely all KIA's should qualify as "grave danger of death" and WIA's were in "grave danger of serious bodily injury")

Whatever the reason, this appears to be a systemic failure in all branches. Virtually no one (99.99%) I have spoken to knows they should be requesting Battle Stars and the few that do, have no idea how to do it.

Of course, once I convince an individual that Battle Stars do indeed exist and may be authorized for wear on the GWOTEM, I am then provided with the three standard responses:
(1) I don't know and I'm too busy to find out
(2) Here is something to read that rehashes published instructions (but doesn't answer any questions)
(3) Ask someone else

Understandably, most people are too busy trying to slay the dragons of today to want to go back and research something that is a Pandora's Box from 2001 to 2005. With the Battle Star's awarding criteria being "engaged in actual combat against the enemy and under circumstances involving grave danger of death or serious bodily injury from enemy action", that could mean that nearly everyone in all branches with a Purple Heart or Combat Action Ribbon (& Combat Infantry Badge) earned between 2001-2005 from Iraq, Afghanistan, and other AO's might need to have a Battle Star request drawn up. With nearly everyone already trying to cram 10 gallons of crap in a 5 gallon bucket, very few people are interested in volunteering for an additional extra 2 gallons of crap.

"Hmm, Battle Stars. Sounds nice, but they've already got CAR's and we're too busy. You can work on it if you like, but you'll have to do all the work. We have to focus our efforts on the current deployment and next inspection, not 2003...."

Personally, I view this more as taking care of your men. The men who hung their ass out there, risking their lives, and rate this recognition, however insignificant it might be. This is especially true when I think of those who returned with a Purple Heart.

I have four Marines from my unit who came home with Purple Hearts and a lot of others who were lucky enough to avoid violating the right-of-way of all the lead flying about them. I am confident most of you have Corpsmen and Marines at your command who rate a Battle Star. Maybe your admin shop already knows all the answers or will have an easier time finding the answer when they process the Battle Star requests for your warriors. Maybe you know someone, who knows someone, who knows it all...

[] I need to know any guidelines I MEF, CENTCOM or CJCS may have established to better define "circumstances involving grave danger of death or serious bodily injury from enemy action" or any request procedures to follow.
[] I need to know what format to use or forms to submit for the requests so I may assist in producing write-ups and answering questions from my officers.
[] May the documentation used to request the Combat Action Ribbon be used to request a Battle Star?
[] Does the awarding of a Purple Heart or POW Medal in a GWOT AO automatically rate a Battle Star?
[] How many Battle Stars may be awarded to an individual?
() One, like the GWOTEM?
() One for the entire "Operation", like the CAR for OIF?
() One per combat tour or deployment in an AOE, like a service star on other medals?
() One per battle or qualifying event, like a Purple Heart? (Op Iron Fist, Op Able Warrior, Op River Gate, Op Steel Curtain, etc.)
[] How are Battle Stars worn (vertical, horizontal) and is the star silver for 5?
[] I'm curious if any command has submitted a Battle Star request and if/why it was rejected by CENTCOM or CJCS (since zero have been authorized).

This post is longer than I intended I am sure you get an idea of what I am hunting for. None of this information is provided in any instruction I have been able to locate and is unknown by all offices I have contacted. Any help you can provide me would be greatly appreciated. If at all possible, I would like to receive a sample package to use as a template in preparation for submitting our requests for Battle Stars. I look forward to hearing back from you with ANY INFORMATION OR GUIDANCE you might be able to provide.


REFERENCE:
GWOTEM update for DoD 1348.33-M:
(1) Only one award of this medal may be authorized for any individual; therefore, no service stars are prescribed.
(2) Battle Stars may be applicable for personnel who were engaged in actual combat against the enemy and under circumstances involving grave danger of death or serious bodily injury from enemy action. Only a Combatant Commander can initiate a request for a Battle Star. This request will contain the specific unit(s) or individual(s) engaged in actual combat, the duration for which actual combat was sustained, and a detailed description of the actions against the enemy."

MARADMIN 129/04
8. DEVICES: ONLY ONE AWARD OF THIS MEDAL MAY BE AUTHORIZED FOR ANY INDIVIDUAL, THEREFORE, NO DEVICES (SERVICE STARS) ARE AUTHORIZED.
A. BATTLE STARS MAY BE APPLICABLE FOR PERSONNEL WHO WERE ENGAGED IN ACTUAL COMBAT AGAINST THE ENEMY UNDER CIRCUMSTANCES INVOLVING GRAVE DANGER OF DEATH OR SERIOUS BODILY INJURY FROM ENEMY ACTION.

NAVADMIN 090/04
6. BATTLE STARS. BATTLE STARS MAY BE APPLICABLE FOR PERSONNEL WHO WERE ENGAGED IN ACTUAL COMBAT AGAINST THE ENEMY AND UNDER CIRCUMSTANCES INVOLVING GRAVE DANGER OF DEATH OR SERIOUS BODILY INJURY FROM ENEMY ACTION.

(Air Force) 252010Z MAY 04
(A) BATTLE STARS MAY BE AUTHORIZED FOR WEAR ON THE GWOT EXPEDITIONARY MEDAL BY PERSONNEL WHO WERE ENGAGED IN ACTUAL COMBAT AGAINST THE ENEMY UNDER CIRCUMSTANCES INVOLVING GRAVE DANGER OF DEATH OR SERIOUS BODILY INJURY FROM ENEMY ACTION.


Combat Action Ribbon:
The principal eligibility criterion is that the individual must have participated in a bona fide ground or surface combat fire-fight or action during which he/she was under enemy fire and his performance while under fire was satisfactory. Personnel assigned to areas subjected to sustained mortar, missile, and artillery attacks actively participate in retaliatory or offensive actions are eligible. Service in a combat area does not automatically entitle a service member to the CAR. Personnel eligible for the award of the Purple Heart would not necessarily qualify for the Combat Action Ribbon.

Combat Distinguishing Device:
The Bronze "V" device is authorized for wear on specific medals if the award is for acts or services involving direct participation in combat operations. Eligibility for the Combat Distinguishing Device shall be based solely on acts or services by individuals who are exposed to personal hazard due to direct hostile actions, and not upon the geographical area in which the acts or services are performed.

https://awards.navy.mil
Navy Department Awards Web Service (NDAWS) Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
Question: GWOTEM: What is a Battle Star?
Answer: A battle star is the small bronze star that is worn on the GWOTEM to denote the number of combat operations in which an individual has participated. It is intended for personnel who were engaged in actual combat against the enemy and under circumstances involving grave danger of death or serious bodily injury from enemy action. Commanding Officers of units who feel their unit qualifies for the battle star must request, in writing, approval for their unit to wear a battle star.

0311_DoC
08-29-2006, 13:15
"However, per NAVADMIN 090/04 (para 6) and MARADMIN 129/04 (para 8), Battle Stars are the only prescribed device for the GWOTEM."

Indeed an interesting question. I have a EGA device on my GWOTEM, since I was with the Marines, and was told that it was authorized. Is this not the case?



HM2

Da-Chief
08-29-2006, 13:52
You both realize I am getting dizzy with this.. Seeing spots..

;-)
HMC

HMC-FMF-PJ
08-29-2006, 16:52
0311_DoC wrote: "However, per NAVADMIN 090/04 (para 6) and MARADMIN 129/04 (para 8), Battle Stars are the only prescribed device for the GWOTEM."

Indeed an interesting question. I have a EGA device on my GWOTEM, since I was with the Marines, and was told that it was authorized. Is this not the case?


For discussion on the FMF Combat Operation Insignia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_operation_insignia)(Mini-EGA), read the forum topic "FMF Device (http://corpsman.com/wowbb/view_topic.php?id=30&forum_id=2)"

Just so Da-Chief can see more spots as his head spins faster:

Neither NAVADMIN 090/04 (https://backup.vworkgroup.com/awards/webdoc01.nsf/(vwWebPage)/DOC_NAVADMINS.htm?OpenDocument)nor MARADMIN 129/04 (https://lnweb1.manpower.usmc.mil/manpower/mm/mmma/awardsref.nsf/MarAdmins?OpenView)authorizes the Fleet Marine Force (FMF) Combat Operation Insignia for wear on the GWOTEM.

However, the Marines were reminded they forgot something and issued an Awards Update a month later. MARADMIN 218/04 (https://lnweb1.manpower.usmc.mil/manpower/mm/mmma/awardsref.nsf/MarAdmins?OpenView)(para 5) authorizes the FMF Combat Operation Insignia for wear on the GWOTEM.

The devil is in the details. While technically my comment 'per those two messages' is correct as stated, the remark is obviously inaccurate when taken out of context and quickly leads to confusion. The Marine Corps authorized the FMF Combat Operation Insignia for wear on the GWOTEM. The Army and Air Force both authorized the Arrowhead device (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrowhead_device)for wear on the GWOTEM. Yet in my research I continuously run into people of all branches who insisted no devices are authorized for the GWOTEM; period.

While this “no device” guideline is correct most of the time, the remark is obviously inaccurate when taken out of context and quickly leads to confusion. If you consider the number of GWOT Expeditionary Medalsawarded throughout the military in all eligible theaters from 2001 to 2006, only a relative few rate any sort of device. Relatively few Navy personnel were with USMC FMF units on combat ops. Relatively few soldiers or airmen participated in combat parachute jumps or combat assault landings. While a larger number of warriors saw combat and rate Battle Stars, that is still a relatively low percentage of our entire military force (say 10%??).

Most military personnel are not entitle to any sort of device on their GWOTEM. However, the FMF Combat Operation Insignia, the Arrowhead device, and Battle Star are obvious exceptions to the general “no device” rule. Surely 13,000 or so recipients of the Purple Heart (http://www.tioh.hqda.pentagon.mil/Awards/PH1.html)(2001-2005) were personnel “engaged in actual combat against the enemy and under circumstances involving grave danger of death or serious bodily injury from enemy action" and all rate Battle Stars.

Da-Chief
08-29-2006, 17:27
Heh.. this is how I feel..

Xraydoc
08-30-2006, 14:53
I was under the impression that the EGA on the GWOTEM was only authorized if yousaw fire while recieving that award.

0311_DoC
08-30-2006, 19:19
Xraydoc wrote: I was under the impression that the EGA on the GWOTEM was only authorized if yousaw fire while recieving that award.
Oh believe me I saw it, dodged it, hid from it and even felt it a couple of times :)

0311_DoC
08-30-2006, 19:20
Xraydoc wrote: I was under the impression that the EGA on the GWOTEM was only authorized if yousaw fire while recieving that award.
OOOPS double post :?

HMC-FMF-PJ
08-31-2006, 03:09
Xraydoc wrote: I was under the impression that the EGA on the GWOTEM was only authorized if yousaw fire while recieving that award.

The Battle Star andFMF Combat Operation Insignia (aka Mini-EGA) are two different devices. For discussion on the FMF Combat Operation Insignia read the forum topic "FMF Device (http://www.corpsman.com/wowbb/view_topic.php?id=30&forum_id=2)"

In order to try to keep the thread on topic, I answered your question in more detail there (http://www.corpsman.com/wowbb/view_topic.php?id=30&forum_id=2); but in short, not really.

crazycajun
09-02-2006, 15:38
Man go away for a few weeks, whew! Good Stuff HMC-FMF-PJ. Good to see the knowledge flowing in here.

Just taking a small break today.

FMF(mini eagle, globe and anchor) - wear one on the Iraqi Campiagn Medal and the GWOTEM.

Have not seen Battle Stars Awarded as of this time. Will check with my counter part at II MEF to see if they attempted to award any the last time they were out there.

Semper Fi,

crazycajun

HMC-FMF-PJ
09-02-2006, 20:41
crazycajun wrote: Have not seen Battle Stars Awarded as of this time. Will check with my counter part at II MEF to see if they attempted to award any the last time they were out there.


Thanks for the help.

Just to clarify, GWOTEM Battle Stars are only applicable for combat ops
[] in Afghanistan from 2001 to 30 April 2005
[] in Iraq from 2003 to 30 April 2005
[] in other possible AO's from 2001 to present (ie. Philipines, across Africa,etc)

Since 01 May 2005, the ACM & ICM are the only campaign medals authorized for OEF & OIF respectively and neither of those campaign medals permits the Battle Star device.

Da-Chief
09-02-2006, 22:23
God I am glad I am retiring..

;-)

More work just to get the right uniform on..

Heh.
Da-Chief..

crazycajun
09-03-2006, 11:49
You only think you're glad you're retiring.....:P

You know you're gonna miss it....

Two weeks until it's the happiest day of my life.....

Semper Fi,

crazycajun out!

HMC-FMF-PJ
11-12-2006, 06:37
Five months later, two of my combat Docs have already retiredand NDAWS still says zero Battle Stars have been authorized. Hopefully, we'll come up with a good answer before my next combat Doc retires in 2007...

I am open to ideas and assitance...:?

Da-Chief
11-12-2006, 07:51
Hey.. Let me get with our new CMC right out of the FMF.. I might see who he knows who knows someone else. etc..

I have a meeting with him on Monday..

Fingers Crossed..

Da-Chief.

HMC-FMF-PJ
06-25-2007, 06:54
My how time flies....

This still has not been nailed down and two more of my OIF I combat Doc's will be retiring this year. One will be gone in about two months and the other will hang up his uniform in Dec.

All assistance and guidance on obtaining the GWOTEM Battle Star would be appreciated.

HMC-FMF-PJ
01-29-2008, 04:58
No solution and NDAWS still shows zero Battle Stars authorized.

Maybe the two-star I spoke to a couple weeks ago will be able to get someone to provide clarification...