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Navycameron
07-20-2007, 19:32
Is their a list of NEC's for corpsman that I could look at. I also have some more questions but maybe they have been answered already. Can you be an IDC when serving with the Marines.
HMC-FMF-PJ
07-21-2007, 05:50
http://buperscd.technology.navy.mil/bup_updt/508/NEC/HM.htm
Have you ever heard the term "spoon-fed"?
I do not know what your other questions are, but you should probably already know the answers to the first two. (read 8403 & 8425)
Not to bust your balls, but when developing my guys I recommend they don't waste silver bullets asking others for things they can easily get for themselves. (ie. type NEC HM in any search engine and the URL above is probably in the top 5)
I think it is just that I am tired. Read the page. Do a little browsing research and then fire away any questions you still have.
Navycameron
07-24-2007, 00:00
So I have looked over the list and I have a few questions I want to ask. Can someone tell me about being 8401 corpsman. Such as the training they do and what are some of the missions they do. Another question is do they only do CASEVAC in the Marine Corps or do they also do it in the Navy. Also are SAR corpsman being deployed to Iraq right now and doing missions on land. My other questions is what are some of the things that 8406 corpsman do. training, missions, etc. etc. etc..
AVTDOC96
07-24-2007, 04:39
Navycameron,
I've been an 8406 for 11 + years now, I can answer pretty much any question that you have. The school is a prereq for 8401 now as well. It's 10 weeks long and you will cover everything from hearing tests to complete physicals. The primary job of an 8406 is flight physicals while on shore duty. When on Sea Duty, you will be attached to either a Navy Squadron or a Ship as ships company. When attached to a Squadron, you will be the Medical Dept Representative and will do things such as shots, maintaining Medical Records, drawing blood, "sick call", ect... A lot of what you would do, will depend on the type of squadron and the location, but that's it in a nutshell. If you have specific questions please don't hesitate to ask.
As for CASEVAC, you don't have to be an 8401 to do this. I know some 0000's that have been doing it, as well as 8406's.
Hope this helps.
R,
HM1(AW)
Navycameron
07-24-2007, 11:36
So is their really any difference between a 0000 and a 8406 besides giving flight physicals. Casevac is something that really interests me that was the reason I asked about it. Also are they any 8406's in greenside billets.
AVTDOC96
07-24-2007, 16:02
The difference between 0000 and 8406 is that 8406's(AVT's) are "airdales". There are a lot of Greenside billets for 8406's. When attached to a squadron, depending on the type of squadron, you may be by yourself or you may have a fellow AVT and a Flight Surgeon, but like I said it depends on the type of squadron. I just left a Marine Reserve CH-53E squadron and accumulated 270flight hours with them. I had an HMC that I worked for, but she was at the MAG level and I was with the Squadron. To be honest, the shore duty side of being and AVT was no fun for me, except I was home with my kids more, but I loved being with the squadron.
Navycameron
07-24-2007, 16:11
Sounds like an NEC I will definitly look into becoming. But you now know that you can't get a C school out of corps school. But do you think you could tell me some of the things that you personally did as an 8406 corpsman. But you will have to educate me on some things. A squadron is helicopters, ships, and airplanes is that right. Also what is a MAG. But I appreciate your help in answering my questions.
AVTDOC96
07-24-2007, 20:43
I've loved every minute of being an AVT, well, that's not entirely true....working in the clinic, not so much. When I say squadron, i'm talking about planes and helo's. MAG - is Marine Aircraft Group.
Me personally, after AVT (Aerospace Medicine Technician) School, also 8406, I went to a Branch Health Clinic as a Clinic AVT. That place was cool, but my day to day stuff was just physicals. I also qualified as an EMT and loved that. After that, I went to a E-2C Squadron (planes with the big domes on the top) and did a couple of Detachments to Puerto Rico, where I did everything from shots to sick call. I did a Cruise on the JFK to the Persian Gulf. While underway, I worked up on the flight deck. Up on the deck you are there for first aid and anything else that might walk into the BDS (Battle Dressing Station). On top of doing my 12 hours for the ship, I had to take care of my squadron, which consisted of walking through the shops to see how everyone was doing, giving shots, and taking care of Medical Records. After that, I went to a P-3C Orion (4 prop plane with a big boom thing extending on the tale)...there I did 2 deployments, 1 to Sigonella, Sicily and another one to Keflavik, Iceland. Both were great deployments. In both spots I did almost the same things as when on the ship, but while deployed with the P-3C's, I worked kind of like an IDC. I did my own sick call and if one of my sailors needed anything that I didn't have in my office, then I would pick up the phone and call one of the Flight Surgeons (Doctors) at the Hospital and tell them what I needed and they would order it for me. I would write the notes and they would counter sign them. Then I went to FMSS(FMTB now) and went to a Marine Reserve CH-53E Helo Squadron. There I did sick call...a lot of paperwork, but I also got to fly as an aerial observer. Now i'm in APT(Aerospace Physiology Technician) School for 2 1/2 more weeks, then it's off to Cherry Point, NC for the next 3 years. That's my career in a nutshell with the things that I did. There's more too the job than what I put in here.
As for answering your questions, don't hesitate to ask. That's one of the reasons this site is so awesome. If you have questions, someone will either no the answer or find it for you. If there is anything else that you want to know, just ask. If you want to pm you can do that as well. I hope i've helped at least a little.
Navycameron
07-25-2007, 11:35
That sounds like a cool NEC to have. You traveled the seven seas almost and you worked on an aircraft carrier. So what was that like working on the deck. Also what are 8406's doing on deployments right now like Iraq and A-stan. Are they doing alot of casevac missions. You said the 8406 NEC is a prereq before the NEC of 8401 is that right. You also told me that you were a certified EMT. What level did you get. I know that the EMT certifications have levels. This is diffinitly an NEC I'm considerding more and more. Also how come you went to a reserve unit I thought you were active duty. Was is just that the reserves had shortage of corpsman and they sent you their.
AVTDOC96
07-25-2007, 20:09
I've traveled quite a bit and I have enjoyed it too. Working the Flight Deck is really hard to explain what it's like. It has to be one of my favorite places to work. To be sitting up between the catapults at night when they launch an F/A-18 is awesome. It can be really stressfull too, but I love that.
Some AVT's are doing CASEVAC, but it all depends on who you with over there and that sort of thing. It's not just AVT's doing it. I haven't been over to the sandbox, so it's kind of hard for me to tell you what they are doing over there.
Yes, you must become an AVT(8406) prior to becoming a an 8401(SAR Corpsman).
Yes I was a Certified EMT, mine has been expired for a couple of years now. I'm kicking myself for letting it expire. I was only a Basic. I wanted to move up, but just never had the time for the schooling. Maybe someday, but now i'm working more on college. I'm taking a couple of semesters off, for the school i'm in now and while I get settled in Cherry Point, NC.
I am Active Duty, but Marine Reserve Squadrons have Active Duty Billets for Corpsman and most of them don't have any billets for reservist. If the get activated for deployment, they augement Corpsman, from hospitals and clinics. Keep in mind that this is at the Squadron Level. If your talking the MAG Level, then they have Reserve Billets there.
Navycameron
07-26-2007, 15:44
Can you take the 8406 course and then take the 8401 course consecutivly like you do have to take one course and then take the next course later on on. Also could you tell me about SAR if you know anything about it. Like some of the things they do on missions or what their job is from day to day.
AVTDOC96
07-27-2007, 12:00
Yes, there are some Corpsman going through 8406 and headed straight to Aircrew Candidate School right now.
As for telling you about SAR, I can't really tell you very much, since I am not one. I know that we have some 8401's on the site, hopefully, they can jump in here an answer that question for you.
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