Reserves

[lima33doc]

Ok, so seeing this HM to BSN Program and after walkimg the halls of Duke Hospital yesterday, I am getting a little excited. I think the easiest and best route for me is to re-up in the Reserves. I am, however a little confused on how Drill Pay works. Can someone fill me in on that?

[HMC8404]

Are you going the evil nursing route? LOL ... just joking lima. Good for you. I can't help you on that, never was a weekend warrior myself. ;)

[lima33doc]

Are you going the evil nursing route? LOL ... just joking lima. Good for you. I can't help you on that, never was a weekend warrior myself. ;) LOL...I used to call the Nursing Route EVIL myself. However, if it gets me to where I want to go, and maybe even earn me a Commision as well, then I am willing to make that sacrifice. :D

[8404]

Ok, so seeing this HM to BSN Program and after walkimg the halls of Duke Hospital yesterday, I am getting a little excited. I think the easiest and best route for me is to re-up in the Reserves. I am, however a little confused on how Drill Pay works. Can someone fill me in on that?

Lima:

Here is the contact for the HM to BSN Program. The liaison should be able to answer drill pay questions for those who are in this program:

HMCM(SW) M. B. Heltzel, USN
Senior Enlisted Reserve Liaison (M1C1)
2300 E Street, NW
Washington DC 20372-5300

Fax: COM 202-762-3531 or
DSN 762-3531

Phone: COM 202-762-3375 or
DSN 762-3375

Email: MBHELTZEL@us.med.navy.mil

[lima33doc]

Thank you Tony.

[8404]

lima;

Here's a copy of the flyer, for this program?

[HMC8404]

LOL...I used to call the Nursing Route EVIL myself. However, if it gets me to where I want to go, and maybe even earn me a Commision as well, then I am willing to make that sacrifice. :D
You know I was only joking ... you and I have spoken on how difficult it is getting a job on the outside when our only NEC was 8404. Go for it! We're not in the Navy forever and you have to support the family in the end. It pays well on the outside as well as with the commission. Just never forget from whence you came. ;)

[lima33doc]

You know I was only joking ... you and I have spoken on how difficult it is getting a job on the outside when our only NEC was 8404. Go for it! We're not in the Navy forever and you have to support the family in the end. It pays well on the outside as well as with the commission. Just never forget from whence you came. ;) Yeah, I knew you were kidding. I know that I was originally looking at going back AD so I could go back Green side, but I am looking at my families future as well as my own. I will NEVER forget where I came from. That is half my issue as far as in the civilian world...lol

[8404]

Ensign Lima, (RN):

Has a nice ring to it!

[lima33doc]

Ensign Lima, (RN):

Has a nice ring to it!
I agree...it does sound kind of nice to me as well...:D

[HMC8404]

Ensign Lima, (RN):

Has a nice ring to it!
Like the 'ring' of a cash register? :D

[psencik1950]

I got out in the 70's and it was easier to find something. I was a construction medic for Brown & Root for a few years, but licensure issues and the oil bust etc. ended that.

I went back and got my RN. Should have done it earlier. Paramedic would have been all right, but we all get old and that's a lot of lifting, plus not as much money.

If you do it, do your BSN right off the bat. It took me yrs to go back and do it, then I did my Master's and got my Nurse Practitioner. Should have done that a long time ago, too.

There are all kind of routes. Right now I'm working with a retired green side IDC, who went PA after he got out. It's a good way to go, either way - you do what you know how to do and get paid for it.

[HMC8404]

psencik ... I just read your signature. Love it!

[psencik1950]

Sums it up pretty well, doesn't it?

Ben

[lima33doc]

I love the signature. I am going to have to use that on the USMC Hangout. I have always said that my one regret while I was in was not taking better advantage of my free time. it is kind of sad that it took this long for me to do this, but when you get the itch...lol

[HMC-FMF-PJ]

Here is the message from 2004

R 111226Z MAY 04
FM COMNAVRESFORCOM NEW ORLEANS//N01A//
TO NAVRESFOR
INFO NAVRESLIAISOFF
BT
UNCLAS
MSGID/GENADMIN/COMNAVRESFORCOM NEW ORLEANS LA/N01A//
SUBJ/HOSPITAL CORPSMAN OR DENTAL TECHNICIAN (DT) TO BACHELOR OF SCIENCE IN NURSING (HM TO BSN) MEDICAL IN TRAINING (MIT) DRILL OPTION//
REF/A/DOC/COMNAVRESFORINST 1001.5D/02OCT2002//
REF/B/DOC/COMNAVRESFOR/14JAN2003//
REF/C/DOC/DOD DIRECTIVE 1310.2/28MAY1996//
REF/D/DOC/SECNAVINST 1120.6C/13MAR2002//
NARR/REF A IS COMNAVRESFORINST 1001.5D ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES FOR THE DRILLING RESERVE AND PARTICIPATING MEMBERS OF THE INDIVIDUAL READY RESERVE. REF B IS COMNAVRESFORINST 1100.4B ENLISTED DRILLING NAVAL RESERVE INCENTIVE BONUS PROGRAMSREF C THROUGH E GOVERNS MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR NURSE CORPS COMMISSIONING.//

POC/WALKER, L/LT/COMNAVRESFORCOM N16/LOC:NEW ORLEANS LA/TEL:504-678-6678/TEL:DSN 678-6678/EMAIL:LAMAR.WALKER@NAVY.MIL//

RMKS/1. THIS MESSAGE ANNOUNCES THE HOSPITAL CORPSMAN/DENTAL TECHNICIAN TO BACHELOR OF SCIENCE IN NURSING (HM TO BSN) DRILL OPTION AND SETS FORTH UPDATED MANPOWER GUIDANCE FOR DRILLING RESERVE HOSPITAL CORPSMEN (HM) ASSIGNED TO PROGRAM 32 AND 46 UNITS THAT ARE APPROVED TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS DRILL OPTION.

2. THE HM/DT TO BSN DRILL OPTION IS DESIGNED TO PROMOTE PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH OPPORTUNTIES FOR HOSPTIAL CORPSMAN OR DENTAL TECHNICIAN, AND AS A VEHICLE TO ASSIST ELIGIBLE CANDIDATES OBTAIN A COMMISSION IN THE UNITED STATES NAVY NURSE CORPS. THE OPTION OFFERS INACTIVE DUTY TRAINING (IDT) DRILL CREDIT FOR MEDICAL COURSE WORK COMPLETED WHILE A MEMBER IS IN A BSN DEGREE PROGRAM. APPLICANTS MUST BE ABLE TO COMPLETE THEIR BSN PROGRAM PRIOR TO REACHING 16 QUALIFYING YEARS OF SERVICE TOWARDS RETIREMENT AND MUST APPLY WITH A RECRUITER FOR DIRECT COMMISSIONING AS A NURSE CORPS OFFICER IN THE NAVAL RESERVE WITHIN 60 DAYS OF COMPLETION OF THEIR BSN DEGREE. THE HM TO BSN DRILL OPTION IS CONSIDERED A PILOT TEST AND IS SUBJECT TO A YEARLY REVIEW. HM'S ATTACHED TO PROGRAM 32 AND 46 UNITS WHO ARE CURRENTLY ENROLLED IN A BSN PROGRAM MAY APPLY FOR THE HM TO BSN DRILL OPTION.

3. MEMBERS CURRENTLY ELIGIBLE FOR AND RECEIVING AN ENLISTED INCENTIVE BONUS WHO DESIRE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS DRILL OPTION, SHOULD BE COUNSELED ON THE PROVISIONS CONTAINED IN REF B REGARDING MAINTAINING SATISFACTORY DRILL PARTICIPATION FOR THEIR INCENTIVE BONUS. ALSO, MEMBERS SHOULD BE MADE AWARE OF TERMINATION OF ENLISTED INCENTIVE BONUS ELIGIBILITY AND POSSIBLE RECOUPMENT/WAIVER OF MONIES RECEIVED UPON COMMISSIONING PER REF B.

4. MEMBERS DESIRING TO BE CONSIDERED FOR THIS DRILL OPTION WILL BE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION PACKAGE FOR REVIEW BY A SELECTION BOARD. APPLICATION PACKAGES MUST BE RECEIVED NLT 21JUN04 FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE HM TO BSN DRILL OPTION SELECTION BOARD. BOTH THE UNIT AND NRA COMMANDING OFFICERS MUST ENDORSE APPLICATION PACKAGES. PACKAGES SHALL BE SUBMITTED WITH THE FOLLOWING REQUIRMENTS:
A. COVER LETTER OF APPLICATION INCLUDING DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION OF NAME, ADDRESS, PHONE NUMBER AND EMAIL ADDRESS
B. STATEMENT OF MOTIVATION FROM APPLICANT
C. UNIT OIC ENDORSMENT
D. UNIT CO ENDORSEMENT
E. LETTER OF ACCEPTANCE SCHOOL OF NURSING (BSN PROGRAM)
F. DEGREE COMPLETION PLAN (COURSES REQUIRED AND NOT YET COMPLETED TO EARN BSN) INDICATING PROJECTED DATE OF GRADUATION AND CREDIT HOURS PER SEMESTER
G. CURRENT TRANSCRIPT OF ALL GRADES FROM COURSE COMPLETED TOWARDS BSN AT TIME OF APPLICATION
H. COPY OF LAST TWO EVALUATIONS
I. PROOF OF US CITIZENSHIP
MAIL, FAX OR FEDEX APPLICATIONS TO:
BUREAU OF MEDICINE AND SURGERY (M10E)
2300 E STREET, NW
WASHINGTON, DC 20872-5300
FAX: COM 202-762-3414 OR DSN 762-3414
PHONE COM 202-762-3399 OR DSN 762-3399

THE HM TO BSN BOARD CONVENING DATE WILL BE ANNOUNCED SEPCOR. SELECTED CANDIDATES AND UNIT COMMANDING OFFICERS WILL BE NOTIFIED BY LETTER OF BOARD.

5. THE HM TO BSN DRILL OPTION WILL BE LIMITED TO 75 PARTICIPANTS TOTAL: 25 STUDENTS WITH A PROJECTED BSN COMPLETION IN FY05, 25 STUDENTS COMPLETING THEIR BSN IN FY06 AND 25 FOR FY07. DRILL OPTION PARTICIPATION IS LIMITED TO 3 YEARS MAXIMUM. APPROVED PARTICIPANTS MUST MAINTAIN A GPA OF 2.5 OR GREATER EACH SEMESTER AND BE ENROLLED FOR 6 OR MORE CREDITS OF NURSING CORE CURRICULUM.

6. APPROVED PARTICIPANTS WILL BE ASSIGNED TO MEDICAL IN TRAINING UNIT (MIT) AND MAY EARN DRILL CREDIT FOR UP TO 160 HOURS OF MEDICAL COURSE WORK WHICH EQUATES TO 40 INACTIVE DUTY TRAINING (IDT) PERIODS. PARTICIPANTS MUST PERFORM THEIR ANNUAL TRAINING REQUIREMENTS WITH THEIR SUPPORTED COMMANDS, AND REMAINING 8 IDT PERIODS WITH THEIR UNIT TO COMPLETE ANNUAL ADMININSTRATIVE AND PFA REQUIREMENTS. PARTICIPANTS MUST SUBMIT COURSEWORK COMPLETED FOR DRILL CREDIT PER REF A AS INCREMENTAL DRILLS ON FORM NAVRES FORM 1570/21 TO THEIR UNIT CO FOR APPROVAL.

7. UPON RECEIPT OF THE SELECTION BOARD RESULTS, CNRFC N12, CENTRALIZED MEDICAL ASSIGNMENTS, WILL ASSIGN A MAS CODE OF TS1 TO THOSE SELECTED PERSONNEL AND A PRD FOR TRACKING PURPOSES.

8. UNIT COMMANDING OFFICERS SHALL APPROVE EACH INDIVIDUAL'S PROGRAM PARTICIPATION AND BE RESPONSIBLE FOR TRACKING ALL IDT PERFORMED TO ENSURE PARTICIPANTS DO NOT EXCEED THE LIMITS SET FORWARD ABOVE. NRA'S WILL PROCESS DRILLS PER REF A AND COMPLETE QUARTERLY AUDITS TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH THESE LIMITS.

9. UPON COMPLETION OF THEIR BSN PROGRAM AND NCLEX EXAM, MEMBERS NEED TO CONTACT A RECRUITER TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION FOR COMMISSIONING.

10. FOR QUESTIONS REGARDING ELIGIBILITY CONTACT CAPT DISCHNER, BUMED M09B-NCR, AT (202) 762-33042 OR EMAIL: CUDISCHNER@US.MED.NAVY.MIL.