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HMC-FMF-PJ
07-08-2008, 23:19
For all current and potential future military students out there.


With a brand new law on the books, it is critically important that all students conduct some personal research on their specific educational benefits. There are potentially thousands of dollars of educational benefits at stake. In many ways, especially during the transition period, the new GI Bill program may seem rather complex but the benefits have been greatly increased for many students.

I have seen the new program called a variety of names, including: S22 (as in Senate Bill 22), Chapter 33, GI Bill 2008, VEA, Post 9/11 VEAA, and Post 9/11 GI Bill.

A portion of new program goes into effect immediately. However, in order to give each military branch and the VA time to implement other changes, the new program will be phased in using two stages:
() Stage 1: During the 2008-2009 academic year starting August 1, 2008, the monthly benefit will increase to $1321/month an increase of $220/month from the current benefit.
() Stage 2: Full implementation of the new program benefits starts on August 1, 2009.

The old program simply paid a flat monthly rate. Effective August 1, 2008, the MGIB-AD rate will be $1321 for full-time enrollment, a 20% increase over the 2007 rate. The three major benefits of the new program include up to 100% paid tuition, a monthly housing stipend, and a stipend of up to $1,000 a year for books and supplies. The new benefit and stipends will vary depending on your school and specific residence. The benefit and stipends will be prorated based on the percentage of maximum benefit payable.

In most cases the new program pays higher benefits and includes certain expenses not covered by the old program. However there are some things excluded in the new program that are still covered under the old program. The types of approved training and types of authorized training institutes are not entirely the same in both programs. You really do need to know the basic details of both programs or you just might screw yourself out of thousands of dollars.

The new program also has other benefits like: Tutorial assistance payments, licensing & certification reimbursement, Work-study, one-time relocation payment, and a special “Yellow Ribbon Program”


[] New program payments:
() Tuition payment not to exceed the most expensive in-State public institution of higher education (at in-state resident level)
() Monthly housing stipend mirrors the basic allowance for housing (BAH) amount payable to E-5 with dependents, in the same zip code as the school.
() Materials stipend of up to $1000 a year, paid quarterly, for required books and supplies.
() Relocation stipend is a one time payment of $500 to qualifying individuals relocating from highly rural areas.


[] The amount of tuition and stipends paid under the new program will vary depending on your state of residence, number of units taken, and amount of post Sep. 11, 2001 active-duty service*. Here is a quick reference showing the percentage of total combined benefit eligibility based on the following periods of post 9/11 service:
100% - At least 36 months of active duty service
100% - 30 consecutive days or more with service-connected disability related Discharge.
90% - minimum 30 months
80% - minimum 24 months
70% - minimum 18 months
60% - minimum 12 months
50% - minimum six months
40% - minimum 90 consecutive days

*Some types of active duty orders do not qualify but this primarily involves Reservists and military academy students. Service prior to Sept 11, 2001 does not count. The total active duty service is cumulative; not consecutive. For Reservists, multiple periods of mobilization may be combined to achieve 36 months for 100% benefits.


[] Reservists with expired MGIB-SR educational benefits may have another chance. Effective June 30, 2008, the 14-year expiration of eligibility for members of the Selected Reserve has been rescinded. If you are a member of the Selected Reserve with remaining entitlement under MGIB-SR (Chapter 1606), you will remain eligible until the date you separate from the Selected Reserve. However no retroactive payments will be made for any training conducted between any previous expiration date (delimiting date) and June 30, 2008.


[] Expiration of Benefits: MGIB-AD expires 10 yrs from discharge. The new program expires 15 years from discharge.


[] MGIB Refunds: Many veterans may be entitled to refunds of their $1200 MGIB-AD enrollment fee paid at boot camp. This refund will be included in the last monthly stipend payment when a student exhausts their benefits under the new program (Chapter 33). Individuals who do not exhaust entitlement under chapter 33 will not receive a refund of any contributions paid under the old program (MGIB-AD, Chapter 30).


[] Kicker Refunds: Many participants in the $600 Buy-Up program (aka Kicker, Additional Contribution, College Fund) will not be refunded any of that money and may loose the extra payments under the new program.


[] Eligibility for Multiple Programs: You are generally entitled to 36 months of VA educational benefits. If you are entitled to more than one program you *may be* eligible for a maximum of 48 months of entitlement when using benefits under two or more programs. Some individuals will only be entitled to the number of months they had remaining under their old program up to a maximum of 36 months. Other individuals may be entitled to up to an addition 36 months of educational benefits up to a maximum of 48 months. How and when you transfer programs may increase or decrease your potential maximum educational benefits.


[] Transfer of Benefits: If you are a member of the Armed Forces on August 1, 2009, the Department of Defense may offer you the opportunity to transfer benefits to your spouse or dependent children. However, there are service requirements and certain restrictions apply, plus each branch will develop their own specific rules.


[] The VA typically categorizes students in the following manner:
() Full-time student (12 or more units) 100%
() 3/4-time student (9 - 11 units) 75%
() 1/2-time student (6 - 8 units) 50%
() 1/4 > 1/2 student (4 - 5 units) 50%
() 1/4-time student (3 or less units) 25%


VA Educational Benefits (not all material has been updated to include the new law)
http://www.gibill.va.gov/GI_Bill_Info/benefits.htm

VA Questions & Answers (not all answers have been updated to include the new law)
https://www.gibill2.va.gov/vba/vba.cfg/php.exe/enduser/std_alp.php?

WAVE (Web Automated Verification of Enrollment)
https://www.gibill.va.gov/wave/default.cfm

The Top 20 Post-9/11 GI Bill Frequently Asked Questions (military.com)
http://education.military.com/money-for-school/gi-bill/20-top-faqs-for-new-gi-bill

Yellow Ribbon Program (new program)
http://www.gibill.va.gov/S22/S22_Yellow_Ribbon.htm

GI Bill 2008
http://www.gibill2008.org/sidebyside.html

VA Education Benefit Payment Rates (old program)
http://www.gibill.va.gov/GI_Bill_Info/rates.htm


Many veterans may face a difficult choice next year. You will need to carefully weigh your options. You may find that declining the new program and sticking to the old program will best serve your needs. Ultimately the choice is up to you, take your time and be sure to consider all the facts before making your decision.

Each military branch may have slightly different rules they apply to educational benefits and benefits are often different for reserve duty. The Department of Veterans Affairs is the only resource that can answer your personal and specific GI Bill entitlement questions. If you need assistance, please call the toll-free number 888-GI-BILL-1 (888-442-4551) to speak with a Veterans Benefits Counselor.

Da-Chief
07-09-2008, 00:12
Thanks Chief for the info!!

D/C

Doc_Stevens
07-09-2008, 13:45
Was wondering (rather than wading through regulations and tons of information) if there was anything out there for the people who were Active Duty when the old Vietnam Era GI Bill went by the wayside.

I was able to use some of the benefits from this when I attended college for one year (Fall/Winter 1980 and Spring 1981). I went Active Duty Reserve (TAR) in 1981 and it seemed somewhere in there, I ended up losing benefits. I remained TAR from 1981 through 1989 and deployed to the Persian Gulf in 1988.

Are there any benefits out there for me?

HMC-FMF-PJ
07-24-2008, 22:21
Are there any benefits out there for me?

I thought I replied to this over a week ago, but I guess not....

To answer the question though I think any MGIB benefits you had from Vietnam or service in the 80's would have expired by now. However, that is just an educated guess and I recommend you call 888-GI-BILL-1 (888-442-4551) to speak with a Veterans Benefits Counselor for a more definite answer.

rieannj
10-01-2008, 12:29
Chief,
As of now I'm using the Reserve GI Bill for my school. I tried to get the REAP but they told that I'm not qualified for it. The small amount of money is not really enough especially on books. I'm very desperate to finish up my associate but I'm having a lot of financial problems. I want to know if I can switch my Reserve GI Bill to the Post 9/11. I did serve active duty for 27months.

Hope you can help me. Thank u!

reservedoc
10-02-2008, 00:01
Was your service a recall in support of operations noble eagle, enduring freedom, or iraqi freedom? That's pretty much the qualification for REAP. If you were recalled to any of these you will also be eligible for the new M-GI Bill next summer, all be it only a percentage. Hope this helps. If your 27 months of service was ADSW, I-ADT, ADT, AT, or IDTT you are not eligible for REAP or the post 9/11 M-GI Bill. If you are an 8404 corpsman you may be eligible for the MGIB-SR Kicker program, I cant remember the NAVADMIN that deals with that. Talk to your PSD or CCC, they may be able to help.

HMC-FMF-PJ
03-06-2009, 20:02
Sailors who enlisted in NCS are in their own special category as far as education benefits go.

You will need to check your Service Record (& your personal copy of all important military documents that I know you maintain at home) to see what you signed and what is documented in your file. Check your entire enlistment contract plus all the Page-13's and other forms you completed to see if you signed away your GI Bill or agreed to alternate educational benefits.

I am not an fully up to speed on NCS educational benefits. You should seek out an expert to discuss your specific circumstances, signed agreements, and service history to see what you qualify for. When you talk to an expert, make sure the expert knows you are NCS so you do not waste your time or get bad gouge as the expert unknowingly provides you info on non-NCS situations. (It happens all the time!)

It is my understanding that NCS will not qualify for REAP benefits during their initial period of active duty, but any subsequent mobilizations will make them eligible. However, after Aug2009, your initial period of active duty should make you eligible for the new GI-Bill depending on what you signed when you enlisted for NCS. The devil is in the details and each person may reach different results.

Word of legal advice to all readers:
- You are an adult. Know what you are signing and what it means before you sign it.
- Little pieces of paper are incredibly important. The little words and check marks on those pages are also very important.
- If it is not on paper, it does not exist.
- If you do not have a copy, it does not exist.
- No one cares more about your benefits than you.

Customer service advice:
- Helping you means extra work for the guy behind the counter. The easiest way to avoid extra work is for the guy to say "No" so you will go away.
- Ask for reference documents and instructions that spell out the program rules so you can do your own homework and confirm whatever "No" the guy behind the counter tells you.
- Bring supporting documents and instructions to show the guy behind the counter whenever you discuss your case.
- The easier you make it for the guy behind the counter to approve your request, the more likely you will get what you want and get it sooner. If you expect the guy behind the counter to do all the research, all the paperwork, and get all the signatures -- it probably will not happen.