Process of receiving orders?

[QM3toHM3]

Hey,

Haven't posted in a while. I'll be up in Great Lakes for the August 26th class. Just wondering if anyone knows the process for receiving orders upon completion of school. I'm trying to get to a specific ship in san diego. Also, wondering if keeping in touch with my detailer while in school would help. Any information is welcome. Thanks. QM3toHM3

[Da-Chief]

HM3,
The Odds of you getting a ship out of Corps School are about 1%. Sorry to tell you that, but its the fact.

You will most likely get 8404, then a Marine Unit, or A hospital.

I can tell you in the 3 years I was at NHCS and worked in personnel, out of the "THOUSANDS" of students who went through, I only placed "3" Students on Ships.. only "3"...

So there are your odds..
;-)

Good Luck
D/C
P.s you can't talk to the detailer.. the school handles all of this. You want to piss some folks off.. Call a detailer..

Later
D/C

[QM3toHM3]

Thanks Chief,

That kinda sucks but oh well. I don't have anything against goin 8404, I just would rather be on a ship. I think i'll still keep in contact with my detailer cuz i'm not too worried about pissing people off. Thanks for the info. QM3

[8404]

As long as you're 'friends' with the detailer, that should be okay. Else, you could get a strange duty assignment. Meaning strange places in the world and it won't be on a ship.

Also, as Da-Chief has stated, the detailer has absolutely NOTHING to do with YOUR orders that are assigned at Corpsman school graduation. Corpsman school personnel are the ones who DO assign you your orders and NOT the detailer. I think you may have totally missed that statement from Da-Chief. He knows, he used to work there, and still knows leadership and the chain of command there.

Because were at war, most Corpsman are being steered to 8404 and assigned with the Marines or on a Marine base. I understand there is a current push in the Navy for all Corpsman to go through FMTB and obtain the 8404 NEC.

'Pissing' people off, is not a good thing, if you hope to achieve success in the world. This includes the civilian sector. In corporate America we used to call it 'political suicide'. You want to be known as someone 'leadership' can depend on, one who mentors juniors, one who doesn't have to be directly supervised, one who can lead by a professional example and betters himself through continuing education.

[QM3toHM3]

I'm not talking about running around and pissing people off but it would make sense to me that aslong as i'm trained to be a sufficiant Corpsman, it doesn't matter where I use my new skills. I'd be more motivated in a billet that I like as apposed to just anywhere. Now, don't get me wrong, i'll love this job no matter where i go but the shipboard corpsman is more interesting to me than 8404. I'm in the navy, i want to be on a ship. We'll see how it goes though. Thanks for the insight. QM3

[8404]

Da-Chief was in the Navy for 25 plus years and never set foot on a ship! While others have lucked out and received orders to one of the two Hospital ships, such as the USS Mercy.

We understand Navy and Ships, but Corpsman and the Marines have a long history of working together as well. It's not voluntary! While it is true, there is a 'dream' sheet you will complete at NHCS, but the ones completing your orders there look first at the needs of the Navy. Right now, those needs are for 8404 Corpsman with the Marines.

If you do manage to obtain orders to a ship, let us know, so we can celebrate with you the good news.

[QM3toHM3]

lol. Thanks. Will do.

[dvldocjoe]

One piece of info that may help you QM3,

Try to get FMF units that could be assigned to ships like the Amphibs: I went from HN to QM3 to get third and cross rated back only when the "needs of the Navy" dictated. I was able to help the Navigation and Medical depts. on cruises onboard Comstock. PM me if you have any questions about FMF HM duties on Amphibs.

Just curious on an after thought, QM is a four year SRB eligible contract. HM is a five year contract which may or may not be eligible depending on NEC. Are the PN's making you sign a one year extension for the school or reenlist?

You could lose the SRB and be made to pay it back if you received one on enlistment or reenlistment.

[corps student]

Heres how it goes QM3, at around test 3-5, some chief is gonna come in and give u a piece of paper, you can either write FMTB west or FMTB east, quad 0(random) or a specific C-School(she'll tell you which ones are available), or just west coast, east coast and stuff like that if u just wanna go to a hospital. You'll need at least an 85%GPA to get a C-School though.

[QM3toHM3]

thanks for the info corps student.

[Nick13]

so i just got my orders out of NHCS my class is 08160A =] and most of my class got over seas im going to okinawa Japan naval hospital i wanted FMF but i didt get it i will be in Japan for 2 years ..i was wonder if any one knows how i can go about in asking for it i want to do FMF or go IA ...

[dvldocjoe]

Last time I was in Oki the Naval Hospital was part of Camp Foster with a BMC at White Beach. Your best bet if you want to go with FMF is to try to find a deploying unit as an IA.

Oki is a funny place so be careful. You can get into a lot of trouble real fast real easily. Watch who you are with and use the buddy system when going off base.

Congrats on some good orders. Use your time in the hospital to learn as much as you can.

[8404]

I'm a little lost and need some help on this one. A Corpsman school graduate can request IA, without having gone to FMTB and having the NEC of HM-8404??

Some clarification would be greatly appreciated.

[dvldocjoe]

Not sure about that one Tony, please pass it along to the higher ups for an answer...

althought I think that FMTB would be required.

They can route a chit through the chain of command upon arrival requesting the school to get the IA status.

[dvldocjoe]

I do know that we are working Nick13 on two different threads on the same subject of NHCS okinawa, should we combine it into one?

[8404]

Nick;

I believe you would have to complete your tour of duty on Okinawa, Japan first. Then, prior to that tour ending, you can request FMTB from your detailer. Check with your Okinawa chain of command upon your arrival for instructions.

I may be wrong, but I understand that FMTB is required prior to your going IA with the Marines.

[USN 1970]

Am interested in approximentally when in NHCS are you given the orders?
Thanks!

[8404]

Am interested in approximentally when in NHCS are you given the orders?Thanks!

Near the end of your class. There isn't a definitive answer and it depends on the workload of the school staff!

[scubasteve13]

The word from the chief at career counseling is that students will be able to pick their orders shortly after test 10. You are issued your orders 3 weeks after that test (depending on the workload as well, stated by 8404), if you are eligible for the orders you chose. For example, a student may not be eligible for overseas duty if they got into the navy with ANY kind of waiver. So, obviously it who behoove a student with a waiver to not choose an overseas duty because you wont get the orders. Consequently, you will have to choose from the "left over" orders.

[USN 1970]

Thanks..back

[USN 1970]

Thanks...........Back when I went to AMS "A" School in Memphis (1969) we got them just as we graduated.........
Thanks again!

[slgbaby]

My son graduates on the 16th and hasn't received his orders yet. I know of a mom whos sailor graduates the 23rd and has received his orders, so it is kinda willy-nilly!

[USN 1970]

My son graduates the 31st............willy-nilly is the right word!

[YardDog]

As I sit and ponder that day 21 years ago....I remember my choice....FMF or Shore.
The only SHIP duties was those going to I.D.C. school, then they went out to U.S.S. Forevergone.....so in short if you desire sea duty, go for the I.D.C. school....plus you start the C-school as a HM2 and upon graduation advance to HM1....it is a year long school.....but your chances for Chief and above increase with this C-School.....if you are a "LIFER" and you are A.J. Squared Away then I highly recommend this!

Just remember to stay away from the Navy Tool.....BoswainPunch

[tbrud02]

I have an interesting question pertaining to orders... My wife is enrolled in the EFMP (exceptional family members program) I can not remember the classification that they gave her. I think it was a 3?? Not to sure, anyways I know that it means that I can not be stationed over seas. Due to her epilepsy I need to be near major hospitals. How do you think this will affect my orders, if at all? Personally I would really like to get stationed at a hospital, but a small part okay not small but a BIG part of me wants to go FMF. But with her being in the EFMP I do not know if this is possible. Please give me some insight on this issue :-)

[8404]

What is the applicable EFMP Navy instruction? Click the links below, which should answer your questions.


SECNAVINST 1754.5B (http://doni.daps.dla.mil/Directives/01000%20Military%20Personnel%20Support/01-700%20Morale,%20Community%20and%20Religious%20Serv ices/1754.5B.pdf), Exceptional Family Member Program
OPNAVINST 1754.2C (http://doni.daps.dla.mil/Directives/01000%20Military%20Personnel%20Support/01-700%20Morale,%20Community%20and%20Religious%20Serv ices/1754.2C.pdf), Exceptional Family Member Program

[tbrud02]

What is the applicable EFMP Navy instruction? Click the links below, which should answer your questions.


SECNAVINST 1754.5B (http://doni.daps.dla.mil/Directives/01000%20Military%20Personnel%20Support/01-700%20Morale,%20Community%20and%20Religious%20Serv ices/1754.5B.pdf), Exceptional Family Member Program
OPNAVINST 1754.2B (http://doni.daps.dla.mil/Directives/01000%20Military%20Personnel%20Support/01-700%20Morale,%20Community%20and%20Religious%20Serv ices/1754.2B.pdf), Exceptional Family Member Program


For some reason the second link isnt working for me :-/

[dvldocjoe]

You should still be able to go FMF and be with a deployable unit even with the program. All of the large Marine bases have a Naval Hospital located on the base itself. You still have a choice of three major Naval Hopsitals as well.

Most of the Marine bases also have the Branch Medical Clinics to work in as well.

[8404]

For some reason the second link isnt working for me :-/

Tbrud:

I had copied the link from another website, which had not been updated with the latest revision of that specific instruction. I've since corrected the link above and have listed it below:


OPNAVINST 1754.2C (http://doni.daps.dla.mil/Directives/01000%20Military%20Personnel%20Support/01-700%20Morale,%20Community%20and%20Religious%20Serv ices/1754.2C.pdf), Exceptional Family Member Program

[tbrud02]

Rog, thank you..

[Oregonian]

We never did the dream sheet. Our instructor asked who was interested in C schools,what ones we had open and wrote down names. Picking orders was just going upstairs and talking to a HM1 in person and a chief on the phone asking where you wanted etc. I expect that every class is different though. Fleet returnee's were also restricted on a few things(returning to the same east/west where they came from,no overseas etc)