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HMC-FMF-PJ
09-24-2009, 18:46
Actually this is a North Carolina law, but everyone going to Camp Lejeune needs to be aware of it since it is rather unique....

Beginning Oct. 1, 2009 it is ILLEGAL to dispose of plastic bottles in the trash.

NC passed HB1465, known as the "water bottle ban", in 2005 that becomes effective next week (Oct 1). The law forbids plastic bottles from being thrown away as garbage and dumped in landfills so the plastic can be recycled instead. In theory, that ban will help more than 288 million pounds annually of plastic soda containers, sports drinks, milk jugs and detergent bottles from needlessly filling/polluting landfills, littering highways, and help boost the state's economy.


According to the state's "Banned Material" website:
http://www.p2pays.org/BannedMaterials/PlasticBottles/

"During the 2005 legislative session, the N.C. General Assembly passed House Bill 1465, banning plastic bottles from disposal effective October 1, 2009. The law does not apply to containers that are intended for use in the sale and distribution of motor oil or plastic pesticide bottles."


The state will emphasize education and information over enforcement. State inspectors will periodically spot check for banned materials and work off tips. Although fines are in the offing for flagrant violators, “most people want to do the right thing, it’s more of an information problem” said Paul Crissman, chief of DENR’s solid-waste section. Trash haulers and landfills have been sending notices to their customers about the bottle ban and may refuse to accept a customer's garbage if it contains banned materials.


Trashing plastic bottles illegal in North Carolina
http://www.camplejeuneglobe.com/articles/2009/09/09/news/mainside/main04.txt
By LCpl Lia Gamero, MCB Camp Lejeune

“The ban is because plastic bottles are not garbage, they're a commodity,” said Scott Mouw, a section chief at the Division of Pollution Prevention and Environmental Assistance. “They are being needed more by manufacturers in order to create their product.”



It has been illegal to put aluminum cans in NC landfills since 1991.

IDCWife
09-24-2009, 18:55
YAY! I think this is GREAT! Pisses me off to no end here at GL that they have all these damn "Great Lakes recycles" signs everywhere but any command function we go to there is NEVER a recycling container provided. RIDICULOUS!

HM3 Quiklot
09-25-2009, 09:34
POINTLESS. NC is my homestate and I know they don't have the capability to enforce this. It is really up to each individual person to take care of this planet, an empty law won't do, if people don't care about recycling you can't make them care, they CHOOSE to care or not. :rolleyes:

Da-Chief
09-25-2009, 15:03
Here's the deal though HM3, Bases "WILL" enforce it.. Trust me the Marine Corps is all about following Rules..

;-)

D/C

HMC-FMF-PJ
09-25-2009, 21:16
POINTLESS. NC is my homestate and I know they don't have the capability to enforce this. It is really up to each individual person to take care of this planet, an empty law won't do, if people don't care about recycling you can't make them care, they CHOOSE to care or not.

There are a couple ways of looking at this....

First off, the state will emphasize education and information over enforcement.
However inspectors will periodically spot check or work off tips. All sorts of people are motivated to supply info to authorities for all sorts of reasons; good, bad, or indifferent.

Secondly, since the trash hauler becomes responsible for the contents of all the garbage they deliver to the landfill, trash companies will be motivated to leave your trash cans untouched at the curb if your garbage is contaminated with banned material. I don't think it would take too long for a homeowner's trash to pile up before the individual is motivated to sort out the recyclables.

Most rules and laws are passed in the hopes of cooperative compliance; not total enforcement. It is hoped that most compliance will be done voluntarily; all the time, every time. Additional reluctant compliance will be gained through a variety of means (social pressure, denial of service, threat of fines, enforcement action against others). Compulsary compliance will then be gained through direct enforcement action and denial of service. Take a look at any law or rule and you will soon discover they all work that way.

The police cannot catch every speeder on the highway. It is just as unrealistic to expect to catch every driver exceeding the speed limit as it is to think you can catch every person tossing out a plastic bottle. Bigger fines and harsher penalties can be piled on but you can't really make a driver care about speed laws. They choose to care or not. Every law is that way.