uniform changes

[indolence]

So today I heard the e1-e6 are getting new uniforms, whats this all about and does anyone know if its true?

[citrus]

I hope they are not goofy lookin

[Navycameron]

Their are a couple of new uniforms. One of the new ones is a blue and grey digital and the recruiters at my office are going to be wearing them at the end of this year. I heard they are only going to be for mechanic jobs and other things like that and not for everyon. The other one is the service uniform kind of like what the Marines have. Here are some pictures for booth of them. One of the reason they haven't brought it out yet is because they were still figureing out how to properly wear them and what kind of stuff like medals and achievements can be worn on them.

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[AVTDOC96]

The new Uniforms are Navy Wide Uniforms for E6 and below, not just for Mechs. The Navy is doing away with the Summer Whites and the Winter Blue Uniforms as well as the Utility Uniform. The new Utility Uniform with be the Blue/Grey Digitals and the Service or Working Uniforms will be the khaki colored shirt with the black pants.

Here is the Official Navy Message on the New Uniforms:
RAAUZYUW RUENAAA4131 0611842-UUUU--RUCRNAD.
ZNR UUUUU ZUI RUEWMCF5926 0611939
R 021842Z MAR 06 ZYB MIN ZYW PSN 021633K15
FM CNO WASHINGTON DC//N1NT//
TO NAVADMIN
INFO RHMFIUU/CNO WASHINGTON DC//N1NT//
RUENAAA/CNO WASHINGTON DC//N1NT//
BT
UNCLAS //N01020//
NAVADMIN 070/06
MSGID/GENADMIN/CNO WASHINGTON DC/N1NT/MAR//
SUBJ/NEW NAVY WORKING UNIFORM AND SERVICE/UNIFORM CONCEPTS APPROVED//
GENTEXT/REMARKS/1. PHASE-ONE WORK OF TASK FORCE UNIFORM (TFU) IS
COMPLETE. PHASE ONE BEGAN IN MAY 2004 AND INVOLVED STUDYING THE
FEASIBILITY OF DEVELOPING A SINGLE NAVY WORKING UNIFORM AND A
SERVICE UNIFORM FOR E-6 AND BELOW. THAT STUDY INCLUDED FLEET-WIDE
SURVEYS, WEAR TESTS BY SAILOR PARTICIPANTS AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF A
THOROUGH BUSINESS CASE ANALYSIS.
2. TFU PRESENTED ITS PHASE-ONE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CNO. HE HAS
APPROVED THE FOLLOWING:
A. PRODUCTION OF A SINGLE NAVY WORKING UNIFORM FOR WEAR BY ALL
SAILORS E-1 TO O-10 -- AT SEA AND ASHORE AND ACROSS ALL COMMUNITIES.
THIS BDU-STYLE UNIFORM WILL FEATURE THREE COLOR VARIANTS: A
PREDOMINANTLY BLUE DIGITAL PATTERN FOR THE MAJORITY OF OUR NAVY AND
SHIPBOARD USE; AND A WOODLAND DIGITAL PATTERN AND A DESERT DIGITAL
PATTERN FOR SAILORS SERVING IN UNITS REQUIRING THOSE TYPES OF
UNIFORMS. IT WILL INCLUDE AN EIGHT-POINT SOFT COVER AND BLACK
SMOOTH LEATHER BOOTS. BLACK SUEDE NO-SHINE BOOTS WILL BE
AUTHORIZED FOR OPTIONAL WEAR FOR THOSE ASSIGNED TO NON-SHIPBOARD
DUTY COMMANDS. BOOTS APPROPRIATE FOR THE WOODLAND AND DESERT
UNIFORM WILL BE INTRODUCED.
B. PRODUCTION OF A SINGLE YEAR-ROUND SERVICE UNIFORM FOR
SAILORS E-6 AND BELOW. THE SERVICE UNIFORM WILL BE COMPRISED OF A
SHORT-SLEEVED KHAKI SHIRT AND/OR BLOUSE, AND BLACK TROUSERS AND/OR
OPTIONAL SKIRT. MINIATURE SILVER ANODIZED METAL RANK INSIGNIA FOR
PETTY OFFICERS WILL BE WORN ON SHIRT AND BLOUSE COLLARS. THIS
UNIFORM WILL INCLUDE A BLACK EISENHOWER-STYLE JACKET WITH A KNIT
STAND-UP COLLAR AND EPAULETS, ON WHICH PETTY OFFICERS WILL WEAR
LARGE SILVER ANODIZED METAL RANK INSIGNIA. THOSE ENTITLED TO WEAR
GOLD CHEVRONS WILL CONTINUE TO WEAR GOLD CHEVRONS AS THE JACKET S
LARGE METAL RANK INSIGNIA.
3. TROPICAL UNIFORMS WILL BE ELIMINATED.
4. TFU IS DEVELOPING THE MANNER OF WEAR FOR THESE NEW UNIFORMS, AND
IS DEVELOPING THE PLAN FOR PHASE-OUT OF UNIFORMS THAT THE NEW
WORKING UNIFORM AND SERVICE UNIFORM FOR E-6 AND BELOW WILL REPLACE.
THESE POLICIES WELL BE EFFECTIVE WHEN GUIDELINES ARE INCORPORATED
INTO THE NAVY UNIFORM REGULATIONS AND WILL BE ANNOUNCED BY NAVADMIN
AT A LATER DATE.
5. THE NAVY WORKING UNIFORM AND SERVICE UNIFORM ARE NOT EXPECTED TO
BE AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE AND WEAR UNTIL THE FALL OF 2007, AFTER
WHICH THEY WILL BE INTRODUCED TO RECRUIT TRAINING COMMAND AND
EVENTUALLY DISTRIBUTED TO THE REST OF THE FLEET. DETAILS ON WHEN
THE UNIFORMS WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE AND WEAR AT SPECIFIC
GEOGRAPHIC LOCATIONS WILL BE RELEASED AT A FUTURE DATE.
6. ALL EXISTING UNIFORMS AND UNIFORM REGULATIONS WILL APPLY UNTIL
THE NEW UNIFORMS ARE AVAILABLE AND THE ASSOCIATED GUIDELINES FOR
WEAR ARE PUBLISHED IN THE NAVY UNIFORM REGULATIONS. DURING THE
TRANSITION PERIOD, ALL MEMBERS MUST MAINTAIN A COMPLETE INVENTORY OF
SEA BAG ITEMS AND EACH ITEM MUST REFLECT A PROFESSIONAL APPEARANCE.
ONCE THE NAVY WORKING UNIFORM AND SERVICE UNIFORM ITEMS ARE ADOPTED,
MEMBERS WILL RECEIVE A UNIFORM MAINTENANCE ALLOWANCE TO SUPPORT
PURCHASE AND WEAR.
7. PHASE TWO OF TFU WILL CONSIDER THE COST AND FEASIBILITY OF
ADDITIONAL UNIFORM OPTIONS, TO INCLUDE A SERVICE DRESS KHAKI UNIFORM
FOR CHIEFS AND OFFICERS; THE USE OF A CEREMONIAL CUTLASS FOR CHIEFS;
AND A SERVICE-WIDE PHYSICAL TRAINING UNIFORM. TFU WILL CONTINUE
EFFORTS ALREADY UNDERWAY TO EVALUATE AND STUDY CURRENT OFFICER AND
ENLISTED DRESS UNIFORMS, AND INVESTIGATE THE PRACTICALITY OF
ADOPTING A SERVICE-WIDE ALL-WEATHER COAT.
8. THE DECISIONS ANNOUNCED IN THIS NAVADMIN REPRESENT THE
CULMINATION OF THREE YEARS OF DEDICATED EFFORT AND RESEARCH BY EVERY
MEMBER OF TFU, AS WELL AS FLEET SAILORS WHO PARTICIPATED IN SURVEYS
AND WEAR TESTS. THEY ARE ALL TO BE COMMENDED FOR ESTABLISHING AND
MAINTAINING A CAREFUL, MEASURED, AND DEEPLY ANALYTICAL APPROACH TO
DETERMINING THE RIGHT UNIFORMS FOR MODERN SAILORS. THE WORK
IS NOT YET OVER, BUT FROM THESE FIRST CRITICAL STEPS THE NAVY NOW
HAS THE KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE TO CONTINUE TO REFINE THE SEA BAG
OF THE 21ST CENTURY.
9. RELEASED BY VADM J. C. HARVEY, JR., N1/NT.//
BT
#4131

NNNN

Hope this helps.

Semper Fi,
HM1(AW)

[indolence]

damn... i actually liked the crackerjack

[8404]

Does that mean 8404's who complete FMTB will not be wearing the same camouflage uniform as do the infantry Marines?

[Poolzer]

The infantry does not wear a different uniform than other Marine Corps assets, they all wear the same.

A
PREDOMINANTLY BLUE DIGITAL PATTERN FOR THE MAJORITY OF OUR NAVY AND
SHIPBOARD USE; AND A WOODLAND DIGITAL PATTERN AND A DESERT DIGITAL
PATTERN FOR SAILORS SERVING IN UNITS REQUIRING THOSE TYPES OF
UNIFORMS. IT WILL INCLUDE AN EIGHT-POINT SOFT COVER AND BLACK
SMOOTH LEATHER BOOTS. BLACK SUEDE NO-SHINE BOOTS WILL BE
AUTHORIZED FOR OPTIONAL WEAR FOR THOSE ASSIGNED TO NON-SHIPBOARD
DUTY COMMANDS. BOOTS APPROPRIATE FOR THE WOODLAND AND DESERT
UNIFORM WILL BE INTRODUCED.

The above cammies are for blue side Navy. Green side Navy will still where Marine Corps green digital's (and desert for that area).

[Poolzer]

damn... i actually liked the crackerjack

Crackerjacks are not going away. The all season (service) uniform will replace what are commonly referred to as the working whites and working blues uniform. We will still maintain the service dress whites and service dress blue uniforms.

[indolence]

Ohhh, well that makes more sense then.

[citrus]

If the Navy would have got rid of the White and Black I would have shot myself in the foot!!!!

[popsie]

I remember in 1974 when they were changing uniforms into the new navy. Where the dress uniform was like the Chief's and the officers. Tried to get rid of the cracker jacks. Plus they authorised the ice cream hat to be worn with the cracker jacks . Plus the work uniforms went to ball caps navy bue pants and a dark bue pull over partial button collared shirt. They sucked too. During my stint I wore either tropical whites, fatigues, or scrubs. I never wore much of the blue side stuff.

[Xraydoc]

On the diggies for duty with the Corps. The Tans and Greens will not be the same. One of the reasons we are aloud to wear the Corps Diggies is we do not have our own diggies...yet. Our Green and Tan diggies will replace the Coprs that we now wear. Now the only difference will be the EGA will be no more, we will have the USN seal inplace of the EGA, all else will be the same.

[HMC-FMF-PJ]

On the diggies for duty with the Corps. The Tans and Greens will not be the same. One of the reasons we are aloud to wear the Corps Diggies is we do not have our own diggies...yet. Our Green and Tan diggies will replace the Coprs that we now wear. Now the only difference will be the EGA will be no more, we will have the USN seal inplace of the EGA, all else will be the same.

Wrong.

The ONLY reason Navy personnel are allowed to wear the MCCUU (MARPAT or "Diggies") is because they are assigned to support the Marine Corps. Navy personnel not assigned to support the Marines should not be wearing the diggie MCCUU. See ALMAR 018/07 for more info, but the MCCUU is ALWAYS worn in accordance with Marine Corps uniform reg's.

Navy personnel not supporting the Marines should be wearing the old BDU (woodland or 3-color desert cammies) or a few should be wearing the Army's ACU if they are assigned there. See NAVADMIN 038/07 for details, but the ACU is ALWAYS worn in accordance with Army uniform reg's. (Obviously I am talking about uniforms and not personal protective equipment like body armor and helmet with misc camo patterns. In a CZ it is more of a "wear what ya got" situation.) Of course the SpecOps community tends to wear whatever clothing works for the mission....

The Navy's new digital BDU's, called Navy Working Uniform (NWU), will not replace the MCCUU for Navy personnel assigned to support the Marine Corps. Those sailors will still wear the MCCUU even after the new NWU cammies hit the fleet. The same goes for the ACU. There will also be more differences than simply substituting the EGA with the ACE (Navy emblem: Anchor, Constitution & Eagle). Things like cut and style will be different in addition to color and pattern. Not to mention that the Fleet will still wear black boots and, per TFU, the NWU is not considered a "tactical uniform".

Unfortunately I do not have a photo of the final version. However, here are two images for an idea what the new NWU will look like.

[] Two officers in BDU with cold weather gear (Gortex & fleece)
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=32392

[] Three enlisted in early tests. Misc components & options from each made the final cut, but I think the one on the right is the closest overall.
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=18277

Task Force Uniform (TFU) website:
http://www.npc.navy.mil/CommandSupport/USNavyUniforms/TaskForceUniform/

[coastie16]

Coast Guard is getting new uniforms too.....we just switched to these ODU's in 2001, now we are going to get a new modified version....where the material is lighter, we dont tuck them in, and the CG Emblem is embroidered into our left pocket.
But it will take some getting used to as our uniform now is "tactical" style.......meant to be tucked.......it will be strange to be wearing a dark blue ODUs not tucked in.
I can see this style working for cammies, but not solids....just my two cents...although it is a pain when you de blouse, and blouse having to tuck all that material in!!
Are you guys(Navy) happy to get these new uniforms???