Ok I was skeptical...
But give Bing a Try. http://www.bing.com .
As a search engine, It gives Google a run for the money..
What do you think?
Perhaps I haven't done enough research but what's the hook for MS? Is it supposed to compete with Google and the other search engines or does it have another 'effect' that I'm just not aware of yet. I tried it briefly but didn't see any compelling reason or that 'wow' effect to make me want to instantly make it my default.
Semper Gumby! Semper Liquidis! Semper Abeo!
To misquote JFK: "Ask not what your search engine can do for you. Ask what you can do for your search engine..."what's the hook
Typically, search engines collect detailed information about all Internet users who use the company's services that is personally identifiable or can be made personally identifiable. This information includes the search terms submitted to the search engine, location of the computer submitting the search as well as record locators, time/date stamps, web pages viewed, and a persistent user identifier, known as a "cookie" for an indefinite period. Some also retaining much of the IP address, which typically identifies a user's device, such as a laptop or a mobile phone.
Combine that data with what Google already knows through its homegrown services--Google Apps, Gmail, Google Calendar, Google Maps, Google Docs, Google Desktop, and many others--and Google (& similar companies) has the potential to know more about you than any one entity ever has.
This information is generally collected for marketing and consumer profiling purposes. It is also used by search engines to carry out research and generate statistical usage data. The information has allso been seized/collected/subpoenaed/bought by intelligence agencies, law enforcement, private detectives, corporate spies, and lawyers. (Not to mention hackers and rivals)
MS wants a slice of that data. MS will use the data for profit, competitive advantage, to further its corporate goals or otherwise dominate the computing world
Between Windows, Outlook, Office, Internet Explorer, Hotmail, Messenger, MSN and Bing: What doesn't MS know about you? You can trust everything to the nice corporation.
(When) Google (received) approval for its acquisition of DoubleClick, it (became) the single largest custodian of Internet user search and browsing histories, with few legal restrictions on using that data or sharing it with third parties.
Search engine companies must comply with search warrants and subpoenas in civil or criminal cases that target your data, just as you would if you stored your data on your own servers. The difference, however, is that those companies have no obligation to inform you that it has received such a warrant and has turned over your files to the authorities. In fact when presented with FBI NSL the company is forbidden from telling you anything. "You lose both factual and legal control over your documents if you use an online service like Google," says former Department of Justice computer crime unit head Mark Rasch, current managing director of technology for forensic consulting firm FTI in Washington, D.C.
"Even if you trust the service to do the right thing with the data, which I tend to do in the case of Google," ..... "it doesn't mean that someone won't come along and make demands for access to that data that wouldn't occur if the data was on your own machine."
(AOL Search queries exposes user)
By MICHAEL BARBARO and TOM ZELLER Jr., NY Times, August 9, 2006
Ms. Arnold, who agreed to discuss her searches with a reporter, said she was shocked to hear that AOL had saved and published three months’ worth of them. “My goodness, it’s my whole personal life,” she said. “I had no idea somebody was looking over my shoulder.”
In the privacy of her four-bedroom home, Ms. Arnold searched for the answers to scores of life’s questions, big and small.
Her searches are a catalog of intentions, curiosity, anxieties and quotidian questions.
Her queries mirror millions of those captured in AOL’s database
(The EU has privacy rules that the US does not)
Thanks Chief, I don't use a lot of the other 'online' services that Google offers so I tend to think of it in terms of a search 'function' only. I had assumed that they compiled data and stats for marketing, but it didn't occur to me that they saved that much data for the other possibilities you mentioned.
Thanks for the eye-opener, and the ref links as always.
Semper Gumby! Semper Liquidis! Semper Abeo!
I myself am finding I like BING more and more. The Photo area is nice as well as the cash back for shopping with it. Right now if I buy a computer from HP with Bing, I can get "15%" back of my order..
Pretty Nice, look if you want to throw money at me... I'll take it..
Well I have been using it for a while, (Microsoft's BING) and I can say I have been really surprised and pleased.
Accuracy is really good, pictures as well as video too.
They have now teamed up with some heavy hitters as far as video and other online content.
Microsoft LIVE seems to be the direction they are pointing at now, and are using Bing as a major component with the plan.
If you have not taken a look at Bing yet try it out.
EPIC Statement to Congress on Google, NSA, and Cybersecurity
EPIC has submitted a statement for the record for a House Foreign Affairs Committee hearing on Google and U.S. Cyberspace Policy. EPIC's statement recommends investigation into the newly-announced partnership between Google and the National Security Agency and the public release of the secret document that grants the NSA broad surveillance authority in cyberspace. The EPIC statement also urges the Congressional Committee to support US ratification of the Council of Europe privacy convention.
Hearing Postponed: The Google Predicament: Transforming U.S. Cyberspace Policy
Monday, February 08, 2010
EPIC Seeks Records on Google-NSA Relationship
Today EPIC filed a Freedom of Information Act request with the National Security Agency, seeking records regarding the relationship between Google and the NSA. The press reported that Google and the NSA have entered into a partnership following a recent hacker attack on Google originating from China. The EPIC FOIA request also seeks NSA communications with Google regarding Google's failure to encrypt Gmail and cloud computing services. In March 2009, EPIC filed a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission urging it to investigate the adequacy of Google's cloud computing privacy and security safeguards. Today EPIC also filed a lawsuit against the National Security Agency and the National Security Council, seeking a key document governing national cybersecurity policy.
Google to enlist NSA to help it ward off cyberattacks
By Ellen Nakashima, Washington Post, Thursday, February 4, 2010
The world's largest Internet search company and the world's most powerful electronic surveillance organization are teaming up in the name of cybersecurity.
24. Feb. 2010: Cryptome.org takedown: Microsoft Global Criminal Compliance Handbook
Cryptome.org is a venerable New York based anti-secrecy site that has been publishing since 1999. On Feb 24, 2010, the site was forcably taken down following its publication Microsoft's "Global Criminal Compliance Handbook", a confidential 22 page booklet designed for police and intelligence services. The guide provides a "menu" of information Microsoft collects on the users of its online services. Microsoft lawyers threatened Cryptome and its "printer", internet hosting provider giant Network Solutions under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA). The DMCA was designed to protect the legitimate rights of publishers, not to conceal scandalous internal documents that were never intended for sale. Although the action is a clear abuse of the DMCA, Network Solutions, a company with extensive connections to U.S. intelligence contractors, gagged the site in its entirety. Such actions are a serious problem in the United States, where although in theory the First Amendment protects the freedom of the press, in practice, censorship has been privatized via abuse of the judicial system and corporate patronage networks.
These include services, such as Hotmail, MSN,MSN Groups, Messenger, Office Live, Windows Live. Windows Live Space, Windows Live ID (Passport), Windows Live Sky Drive, and even XBox Live.
Microsoft Online Services Global Criminal Compliance Handbook
Cryptome replacement website
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I too used it and is really good.I think this will be a good search engine in future...